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In this episode of CEOs Unscripted, host Jane Gentry sits down with Robert Brown, former CEO of American Asphalt Company, a man who lost everything, borrowed $200K from 20 friends and family members, and turned a struggling asphalt company into a thriving mid-market business through grit, trust, and relentless relationship-building.
This episode is packed with raw, unfiltered lessons every mid-market CEO, entrepreneur, and business owner needs to hear.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- How to buy a business with no money (and make it work)
- Why your best salesperson should NEVER become your sales manager
- The #1 reason M&A deals fall apart after the ink dries
- How Robert hired a tile salesperson to run asphalt sales and it was his best hire ever
- Why preparing for your exit should start on Day 1 of owning the business
- The time management strategy that freed Bob from working IN the business
- Why trust is your most powerful business tool and how to build it fast
- The J-Curve of leadership growth every scaling CEO must understand
Key Quote from This Episode:
“People don’t care how much you know until they know how much you care.” — Robert Brown
📌 Timestamps:
- 00:00 — Introduction & Episode Preview
- 01:45 — Robert’s Origin Story: Growing Up in a Family Business
- 04:10 — Growing Too Fast, Losing It All & Starting Over
- 07:00 — How Robert Bought an Asphalt Company With No Money
- 10:30 — Learning the Business from the Ground Up (From Employees)
- 13:15 — The Sales Strategy That Built the Company: Relationships Over Transactions
- 16:20 — Building & Retaining a Team in a New Acquisition
- 19:45 — The Trust Formula: What Actually Keeps Employees for 38 Years
- 22:30 — How Robert Scaled: Buying Bigger Plants & Strategic M&A
- 27:00 — The M&A Lessons Nobody Warns You About
- 30:15 — Codifying Process: CEO Peer Groups, Vistage & C12
- 33:40 — Why You Should Hire a Great Salesperson (Not an Industry Expert)
- 36:50 — Sales Managers vs. Sales Coaches: The Mistake Most CEOs Make
- 39:30 — Delegation, Time Studies & Getting Out of Your Own Way
- 42:45 — Preparing Your Business for Exit from Day One
- 44:30 — Rapid Fire Round: Leadership Wisdom from 38 Years in Business
- 46:10 — Closing Thoughts & Where to Find Robert
🎙️ About CEOs Unscripted:
CEOs Unscripted is the bi-weekly podcast for mid-market leaders hosted by Jane Gentry — CEO advisor, Harvard Business School entrepreneurial MBA mentor, and 20-year consulting veteran. No fluff, no jargon — just honest conversations about what it really takes to lead, grow, and scale.


